{"id":12823,"date":"2018-04-25T05:00:38","date_gmt":"2018-04-25T13:00:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/tommorkes.com\/?post_type=podcast&#038;p=12823"},"modified":"2023-11-07T20:46:30","modified_gmt":"2023-11-08T03:46:30","slug":"jordan-peterson","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/tommorkes.com\/podcast\/jordan-peterson\/","title":{"rendered":"ITT 143: Turning Chaos into Order with Dr. Jordan Peterson"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1280\" height=\"720\" src=\"https:\/\/tommorkes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/in-the-trenches-with-jordan-peterson.png\" alt=\"-\" class=\"wp-image-12828\" title=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/tommorkes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/in-the-trenches-with-jordan-peterson.png 1280w, https:\/\/tommorkes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/in-the-trenches-with-jordan-peterson-300x169.png 300w, https:\/\/tommorkes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/in-the-trenches-with-jordan-peterson-768x432.png 768w, https:\/\/tommorkes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/in-the-trenches-with-jordan-peterson-1024x576.png 1024w, https:\/\/tommorkes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/in-the-trenches-with-jordan-peterson-720x405.png 720w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<p><iframe src=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/media\/player\/2n6c2-8fee9a?from=yiiadmin&amp;skin=1&amp;btn-skin=108&amp;share=1&amp;fonts=Helvetica&amp;auto=0&amp;download=0&amp;rtl=0\" width=\"100%\" height=\"100\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" data-name=\"pb-iframe-player\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/tommorkes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/jordan-peterson.jpg\" alt=\"Jordan Peterson on In The Trenches with Tom Morkes\" class=\"wp-image-12824\" title=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/tommorkes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/jordan-peterson.jpg 300w, https:\/\/tommorkes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/jordan-peterson-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<p>Dr. Jordan Peterson is a professor at the University of Toronto, a clinical psychologist and the author of 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos, Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief, and many scientific papers which have been cited literally thousands of times (according to Google Scholar Citations). As a Harvard professor, he was nominated for the prestigious Levinson Teaching Prize, and his classroom lectures on mythology and psychology, based on his book Maps of Meaning, were turned into a popular 13-part TV series on TVO.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I first stumbled across Dr. Peterson's work via his Maps of Meaning lecture series on YouTube. Within minutes I was hooked, and proceeded to binge watched more than 24 hours of these lectures, which use the story of Pinocchio to articulate the way in which you and I act in the world, the deeply biological origin of \"meaning\" and \"sacrifice,\" and how we can better navigate the world through understanding stories, meta-stories, and archetypes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If you had told me two years ago that my favorite videos on YouTube would be a professor's university lecture series on YouTube, I would have called you crazy. But that's a testament to Dr. Peterson; how he can take topics that could be seen as otherwise mundane or cliche, and turn it into a compelling narrative that gives the best Hollywood films a run for their money.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Unsurprisingly, Dr. Peterson\u2019s YouTube channel, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCL_f53ZEJxp8TtlOkHwMV9Q\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">Jordan Peterson Videos<\/a>, which features his university and public lectures (including his recent 15-part biblical series), has over 1 million subscribers, with 10s of millions of views.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">In this broadcast, Jordan Peterson and I talk about:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul>\n<li>Dr. Peterson's <a href=\"https:\/\/tommorkes.com\/instigate-before-its-too-late\/\">morning routine<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>How Dr. Peterson creates time to write (and why it's so important to develop a practice of writing)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>How Dr. Peterson uses Twitter to develop content for his blog<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>What Dr. Peterson means when he says \"Don't let bullies get away with it\" (from a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.quora.com\/What-are-the-most-valuable-things-everyone-should-know\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">Quora response<\/a> that's generated over 326,000 views and more than 5,000 upvotes)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The difference between meaning and suffering; why you should strengthen the former and reduce the latter to lead the best life you possibly can, and why <a href=\"https:\/\/tommorkes.com\/uncertainty-and-courage\/\">courage is so important<\/a>...<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>What Dr. Peterson thinks of Nassim Taleb (including how several of their ideas align, including the <a href=\"https:\/\/tommorkes.com\/how-to-build-an-antifragile-business-that-gains-from-disorder-uncertainty-and-failure\/\">concept of antifragility<\/a> and \"skin in the game,\" and his interest in having a conversation with Taleb)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Why the hard-right \/ hard-left dichotomy is an imperfect, if practical way to navigate the complexity of our modern political environment<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>How to raise your kids traditionally, without sheltering them (this is an answer to a reader question)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>And much more.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">How to connect with Jordan Peterson online:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/jordanbpeterson.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">Jordanbpeterson.com<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/selfauthoring.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">The Self Authoring Suite<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/2KbIVj5\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaose<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=f-wWBGo6a2w&amp;list=PL22J3VaeABQD_IZs7y60I3lUrrFTzkpat\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">The Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories<\/a> (on YouTube)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=I8Xc2_FtpHI&amp;list=PL22J3VaeABQAT-0aSPq-OKOpQlHyR4k5h\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">Maps of Meaning<\/a> lecture series (on YouTube)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jordanbpeterson\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">Jordan Peterson on Twitter<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">View this interview with Jordan Peterson on YouTube:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"ITT 143: Jordan Peterson on writing, bullies, suffering, Nassim Taleb, and Twitter\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/u2tiftny9nk?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Great quote from Jordan Peterson:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u201cHere's something you can do with your life: devote it to making everything you possibly can better, and see what happens. Tell the truth, aim high, and make things better - see where you can get with that.\u201d -\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jordanbpeterson\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">@jordanbpeterson<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If you enjoyed today\u2019s podcast, please leave a review on iTunes <\/span><\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/in-the-trenches\/id601855775\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">here<\/span><\/i><\/a><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. Thanks so much in advance for your support.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dr. Jordan Peterson is a professor at the University of Toronto, a clinical psychologist and the author of 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos, Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief, and many scientific papers which have been cited literally thousands of times (according to Google Scholar Citations). 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